Mac Mall Interview
by Scott Bejda
From Murder Dog Vol 14 #1
I love the title of the new album! How did you come up with that?
The title “Thizziana Stone And The Temple Of Shrooms” was inspired by Mac Dre and how he kept everything stewy. When I came with this one I wanted to make sure that we kept it stewy for the fans. Also we have these things out here that we call “Thizz names” that whenever anybody is Thizzin you will have your Thizz n
ame. Like Muhammad I.E. Thizziana was one that was mine. I just added to it
and got “Thizziana Stone And The Temple Of Shrooms”. It is some Cutthroat Crest
stuff!
Do they have good shrooms out in Cali?
Hell yeah! I kick it with the boys up north like Humboldt County and all my folks up there. We are definitely up into that and Thizz is all out there.
Shrooms are legal because you can’t stop them from growing!
Please believe it! Miami calls me “Lil’ Jimmy Hendrix” and I love to trip off of that and go see the crazy movie.
As an artist would you say psychedelics like shrooms open up more of a creative side of you?
Definitely. Anybody who has ever tried them knows that the Indians used them to broaden their minds and go to the dream land and the spirit world. I do believe mushrooms open up a place in your brain that is not normally used. I can’t say exactly how it effects my music, but my brain is open to think other things that maybe I wouldn’t think. My mind is open in ways that it normally is not, so you get all types of inspiration. We do all them muthafuckaz! Everybody knows what Thizz is and how we get down out here and what is up, but Thizz also represents the feeling that you have when you are just feeling yourself. That is what we represent too. It’s not about the drug, but the feeling that you have when you’re on one. Everybody on the label is feeling themselves on a positive level. Me personally, when I’m on the shit I’m positive like a muthafucka! I’m not trippin’ on bustin’ a muthafucka’s head unless I’m hella disrespected.
You are all from the streets and rep the streets 100%, but Thizz has also brought a comedic presence to the game!
It’s about having fun! Why can’t you have fun? We enjoy having fun, eat what the fuck we want, stay fly and enjoying life. Just live the way you want, because life is shorter than a muthafucka and life can be taken from us whenever. That is our reality! Nigga, you can get your head busted anytime, and niggaz is out here killing like a muthafucka just like out there. Muthafuckaz don’t go to sleep and wake up with a mean mug!
You gotta have a balance!
This is something that I like to say: One person is not one thing. If a muthafucka is acting like he’s one thing, he’s lying to himself or has been brainwashed. A muthafucka is many things, we have many sides. Just like my record, because I got all types of shit on there. I’m talking to the chassis telling them I want to get my dick sucked, but I’m also saying, “Bitch I got some love for ya because you are loving ya nigga.” I got shit where I talk about busting heads, but I also got shit where I talk about spiritual shit and the shit that goes on in a Black man’s head while going through society. Not just a Black man, but an modern person living in this capitalist society.
That’s deep!
Ya feel! Back to what I said about a person not just being one thing, because even a killer is going to love his momma. There’s a happy side to even the meanest muthafucka, because that nigga is going to smile when his kid is born. We try to make every day like our birthday, every day like Christmas, and everyday like Thanksgiving. We are having fun out here because we know we could lose it just like that. With some people knowing that they could die at any time they might get on some depressed shit and start wearing the black all the time, but with us we know we are out here playing this game and this game takes brains and names so we are enjoying our life. A cat is still gonna have the drama, but a nigga gonna get down and have fun too.
Where did you get this kind of understanding? The whole Thizz attitude is so original.
We got a lot of that from Furl, because Furl could have been an angry dude coming home from jail and shit, but he switched that shit around. Furl was a Gangsta, so don’t get it twisted, and every muthafucka we fuckin’ wit out here on Thizz is gangstaz from all over the Bay. These muthafuckaz will give you the business! But muthafuckaz is also multicultural and open minded. We got Thizz Latin and Thizz South. We are positive in our attitude that a lot of these gangstaz from all over is now working with Thizz. I am proud to be one of the owners of this movement.
How long have you been a CEO of Thizz Entertainment?
How that whole situation came about was when I was in Kansas City. Some muthafuckaz know it, about me losing my partner and my friend and my Mac brother, so I had to step up, not only for the music but for my neighborhood The Country Club Crest. I had to step up and be like, “Man, I got to take on some responsibility because it is not all about myself anymore.” I got to step up and make sure that Crest Cutthroat music don’t die in Kansas City! And you see that shit didn’t.
When someone dies they can only hope you get the kind of love Dre is getting! Ya’ll are really keeping him immortal!
Mac Dre is the flag that is waved by the entire Thizz Nation and we are all over the United States. We just opened up Thizz Nation South. It is going down! We got the Blacks and the Latins connected with Thizz Latin, and my folks Gold Toes is holding it down. It’s all under Furl and it’s not only love but respect. Not only do we have Furl looking down on us, but Thizz is a business on some positive stuff. My thing is we are not muscle, we are not hustle, we are straight up good business. I believe that us having those kinds of morals that we were raised with in The Crest and putting it into the business, we were able to be successful. But it was definitely all because of Furl. None of this woulda happened without him.
You feel it’s important to bring the good business side of things to the table?
Just peep it! In every city in the Bay there is somebody eating with Thizz. It is hard to hate that! It is really hard to hate that. Muthafuckaz is eating and starting their own shit doing their own things off of Thizz. That is one of the reasons for me kicking back the first year I was in the business, letting other people come out. That’s why we got Mistah FAB, Ridah J-Clyde, The Crest Creepers, and the list goes on. That’s why we got all these other fat groups bring that dope. Alls I do is kick back and let them get their shine on. One thing we didn’t want people saying is we trying to live off of his memory. You can’t say that about us because after a year we had all these stars. They were these new stars that Furl had love for and did work with them.
I know the streets are all over Thizz. Are the majors recognizing you too?
FAB is doing a deal with Atlantic, but as a whole we are trying to do business and make our brand solid. That is what we are focusing on. We are making sure that our brand is solid and our fan base is solid so when we do talk to these people we are talking on a righteous level. We are making sure that our name is a brand, so they can give us the walas. If it don’t come we will keep doing what we are doing and handling our business. We are handling our market and are putting out new records every quarter and coming with it. If it come it is cool, but if it don’t we’ll just keep doing what we’re doing and doing what we are good at.
You have been changing the game from the underground up! You don’t need the majors to turn this shit over.
No doubt! We are also getting into Rock music too. I got Crime Seen, which is the first Rock/Rap group on Thizz but definitely not the last, because we are into all types of music for real. We’re in the business and doing our thing how we want to do it! For the first time in the Bay you have all these bosses not being selfish and working together, doing what they can do for each other. We are expanding out to LA too. Now Bad Azz is fuckin’ with Thizz. Hopefully we can get them brothers down there on the same page as us and we can move with Cali as a unit. One thing I want to tell them brothers Down South that it is working up here, this shit is working.
What’s happening with Thizz South?
We got Thizz South and we got my folks Chop running that. Thizz South records is gonna be dropping soon! Uncle Miami and Kilo brought them to the table!
How would you compare your new record to “Untouchable”, “Illegal Business” and all of your previous work?
There is stuff definitely added. I learned so much from Furl before he passed. We were working on “The US Open” together. I learned so much from him seeing that freeness. It’s the freeness of being who you are and saying what you wanna say. It’s understanding that the people who buy you and the people who think the way you think appreciate your freeness. Knowing that, you just say what you want to say how you want to say it. I learned a lot from Mac Dre during the recording of “The US Open”. You just gotta be yourself. The people who buy your music appreciate your words and the way that you say them. That is how we speak Thizzlamic! Thizzlamic is whatever we want to say and however we want to say it. Even though some people might think it’s a mistake, that’s how we want to say it and people love that. With this record I kept the freeness! It’s not only a Mac Mall record with the viscous lyrics, but it’s also stewy and muthafuckaz is gonna laugh and crack up when they hear that shit. You are gonna laugh, cry, think, and all that because it’s gonna touch all emotions.
When you say freeness it makes me think of Tech N9ne!
Tech N9ne is definitely one of the freest muthafuckaz that I know. He does him, whatever the fuck anybody says. He could do whatever because that nigga will bust you up with some Hip Hop shit and then spit some Gangsta shit that a muthafucka can have. I know the dude and I have fucked with the dude and he is a friend. That muthafucka is a deep dude! He does what he does real good. Brotha Lynch Hung is the same way. You might think Brotha Lynch is on some Gangsta shit, but he is an original and one of my favorite rappers. When I tell people that they trip and are like, “What?” Dude is a cold thinker and that’s what I dig! That’s like on this record because I talk about whatever the fuck I want to talk about.
In your music you can hear a lot of truthful knowledge and street shit, but there is also a lot of party shit too. Which do you like doing more?
To me it is all the same. It’s just different feelings and different ways that I am feeling. I can’t say I like doing one thing the most, because it is all expressions of the moment.
What kind of reaction have you been getting from the album?
People have been saying that it’s like “Illegal Business” and that it’s a classic. It is the number one record in The Bay right now. We are going to drop the first single, which is called “The One”. The whole record is what Mac Mall fans have come to expect from Mac Mall, but a whole lot that they never dreamed of.
I grew up off that Mobb shit but the beats on this album are addictive! It sounds like you have a real supportive cast on here.
Thank you! We have always been innovators trying to stay a step ahead. Even with the stewy stuff it’s bass heavy. One Drop Scott brought a lot to this project, because I started the record with him. A lot of people showed up like Goapele. I even got a beat from my barber. My barber also does Hip Hop and he came through for me on a couple tracks. I also try to shine on some of the new people we got and the young cutties.
What are some of the outstanding songs on this record?
We got songs on there like this, which is a Thizzlamic song and it’s called “LuvLuvLavLavSavLuvLoot”. People might be like “What the fuck is that?” That means “Luv Luv’s Luv But The Lavish Savage Luv’s Loot.” I got shit on there like “Head Choppin” where I’m introducing some of the new cutties from our neighborhood. I got stuff on there like “Let’s Rock It” that I’m killing with my cutty Vidal from the Crestside. I got shit on there like “I’d Rather Have An AK”. I talk about everything from spirituality, police brutality, drugs, Black power, everything. We talk about all of that, but then I got a song where I talk about getting my dick sucked.
What are people saying about the song “Slobba”?
They love that shit! My little cousin Droop-E did his thing on the production. I wanted to have some fun on here too, that is what I learned from Furl. I keep the humor up in there, but also come with the heat, and don’t be scared. I come with all different feelings and I don’t think I showed any fear on this record. Just like the song “Ratha Have An AK”.
You hit all levels.
All my favorite rappers don’t have one style. Everybody wants to get a label for you. Like Tupac, of course they’re gonna label him with that thug shit, but this nigga had some of the most prolific shit ever written in the history of word.
He broke down the struggle for every man!
For every man! That’s what I would tell him when we used to kick it! I would tell him, “Dude, you are so important and you represent everybody.” That is why I feel blessed to have had the time that I had with dude.
Being from the Midwest, I never got to see the Young Black Brotha videos until recently. I saw Tupac was in one of your videos.
The cold part about it was he was not only in my video, but he also directed my video too. He directed me and Ray Luv’s video, and he did that shit for free because of the love he had for us. All I had to do in that video that you saw was come and do what this fool said. He had everything else planned out and that was the type of love this fool had for his people, man. He loved my project and loved what I was trying to do and helped me out. I was a young kid from The Crest and he put me up under his wing and taught me so much. I’m thankful to god to have had this dude in my life. It’s crazy, crazy! Also DJ Cease, rest in peace. If there wasn’t no DJ Cease there wouldn’t be The Mack, and if there wasn’t no Mack there wouldn’t be no Mac Dre and there wouldn’t be no me. For me, having my first generation mack and my second generation mack gone, I feel a great responsibility to handle this business and be able to get us to where we want to go along with Miami and Kilo. We got to get there, dude! These niggaz are in our brains every day and that’s why we handle our business!
Sounds like you have a lot of pressure on your shoulders?
The good thing about it is pressure makes diamonds. That’s the only thing on my mind. If anything, I have more inspiration than pressure. I have had real pressure like guns to a muthafucka’s head or something. That’s pressure! Police behind your ass is pressure. This is just business! We have had a lot of bad shit happen. We have shit happen to us and as men first we handle our business. If anything it is just fuel to my fire, and it’s shit that is gonna push me even harder. I can’t be weak. When I’m tired I think about the reasons I’m doing this and I’m not tired. Back in the day Mac Mall would have been like, “Man, fuck this shit I’m gonna go fuck with these bitches and smoke some weed.” Now I can’t do that because I got Mac Dre and DJ Cease looking down at me, pushing me to handle my business and go savage.
As a CEO you have lot of people who depend on you too.
Yeah, but I depend on them too. We are doing it! I don’t really feel that type of pressure!
It sounds like the business is almost like a sanctuary?
You can’t run from yourself! I would say that because when I handle my business with my folks and when we get further, in a sense it does make me feel good because we are getting our goals accomplished. I don’t try to hide from reality because we are fuckin’ with Thizz and we are fuckin with the streets and the realest soldiers are right here. We are bringing the community together and stop the killing by giving niggaz the opportunity to help themselves.
But the negative press will never focus on the good things like that!
Right. Ain’t nobody out here have got at us and gave us a pat on the back, a good line in the newspaper or nothing. We are helping to stop Black on Black crime. We are saving some lives, but nobody never focuses on that shit. Truth is, we don’t need them either, because we don’t do it for the media. We do it for the people.
Long after you are all gone, your legacies will be with the kids!
It is still gonna be Thizz! We got kids out here with us! If you look at our demographic a lot of that has to do with Furl too. We got fourteen year old White girls who love Thizz, and all nationalities from Chinese to Mexican to everyone.
It’s beautiful to see how music brings Black, White, Yellow, Red, and Brown together like that!
Everyone is together with this Thizz!
Are you planning to take Thizz overseas?
We got some Thizz cats that are down with us in Europe and we are definitely going to do the worldwide tour, but we are trying to lock down the United States first. We just opened Thizz South and we are taking it slow with that. We are doing this world domination thing step by step. We are on our way and we are breathing down they muthafuckin’ neck!
There has really been no label in recent history since No Limit to put out as much material as Thizz!
The cold part about it is we are not just putting out shit to put it out; we are putting out quality stuff. When you see that Mac Dre stamp you are getting a certain quality of music and we are not trying to rob you. Look what we are doing for the people, we are creating new stars in Hip Hop for people to love. Mistah F.A.B. just got with Atlantic and we just got the Thizz South stuff and we are keeping it moving.
If you ever were to hang up the mic, what would you be most happy about in your career?
I will never hang up the mic! They would hang me up before hanging the mic up. But if it was for one thing, that would be for spitting game. Ever since I was sixteen that’s what I did, because game don’t play out. You got rich nigga rappers, hardcore Gangsta rappers, Hip Hop style rappers, but I spit game. Game has to do with everything. Game is everything: from the corporate room to the block, from a little girl’s eyes to a jaded prostitute’s eyes. If it was anything I would have to say game! Mac can spit game!
Is there still a lot of unreleased Mac Dre material left?
We got another “US Open” record that we had did when he was alive. There is almost enough material for another record. We want to keep it special, not keep throwing it out there too fast, so the fans won’t think it’s special. We try to hold it back and bring it out on those special times.
Will there be another solo Mac Dre record?
Definitely. There is a lot of material left, you have not heard the last of Dre. We are trying to make sure that our brand is well known and we got other stars in store for you too.
by Scott Bejda
From Murder Dog Vol 14 #1
I love the title of the new album! How did you come up with that?
The title “Thizziana Stone And The Temple Of Shrooms” was inspired by Mac Dre and how he kept everything stewy. When I came with this one I wanted to make sure that we kept it stewy for the fans. Also we have these things out here that we call “Thizz names” that whenever anybody is Thizzin you will have your Thizz n
ame. Like Muhammad I.E. Thizziana was one that was mine. I just added to it
and got “Thizziana Stone And The Temple Of Shrooms”. It is some Cutthroat Crest
stuff! Do they have good shrooms out in Cali?
Hell yeah! I kick it with the boys up north like Humboldt County and all my folks up there. We are definitely up into that and Thizz is all out there.
Shrooms are legal because you can’t stop them from growing!
Please believe it! Miami calls me “Lil’ Jimmy Hendrix” and I love to trip off of that and go see the crazy movie.
As an artist would you say psychedelics like shrooms open up more of a creative side of you?
Definitely. Anybody who has ever tried them knows that the Indians used them to broaden their minds and go to the dream land and the spirit world. I do believe mushrooms open up a place in your brain that is not normally used. I can’t say exactly how it effects my music, but my brain is open to think other things that maybe I wouldn’t think. My mind is open in ways that it normally is not, so you get all types of inspiration. We do all them muthafuckaz! Everybody knows what Thizz is and how we get down out here and what is up, but Thizz also represents the feeling that you have when you are just feeling yourself. That is what we represent too. It’s not about the drug, but the feeling that you have when you’re on one. Everybody on the label is feeling themselves on a positive level. Me personally, when I’m on the shit I’m positive like a muthafucka! I’m not trippin’ on bustin’ a muthafucka’s head unless I’m hella disrespected.
You are all from the streets and rep the streets 100%, but Thizz has also brought a comedic presence to the game!
It’s about having fun! Why can’t you have fun? We enjoy having fun, eat what the fuck we want, stay fly and enjoying life. Just live the way you want, because life is shorter than a muthafucka and life can be taken from us whenever. That is our reality! Nigga, you can get your head busted anytime, and niggaz is out here killing like a muthafucka just like out there. Muthafuckaz don’t go to sleep and wake up with a mean mug!
You gotta have a balance!
This is something that I like to say: One person is not one thing. If a muthafucka is acting like he’s one thing, he’s lying to himself or has been brainwashed. A muthafucka is many things, we have many sides. Just like my record, because I got all types of shit on there. I’m talking to the chassis telling them I want to get my dick sucked, but I’m also saying, “Bitch I got some love for ya because you are loving ya nigga.” I got shit where I talk about busting heads, but I also got shit where I talk about spiritual shit and the shit that goes on in a Black man’s head while going through society. Not just a Black man, but an modern person living in this capitalist society.
That’s deep!
Ya feel! Back to what I said about a person not just being one thing, because even a killer is going to love his momma. There’s a happy side to even the meanest muthafucka, because that nigga is going to smile when his kid is born. We try to make every day like our birthday, every day like Christmas, and everyday like Thanksgiving. We are having fun out here because we know we could lose it just like that. With some people knowing that they could die at any time they might get on some depressed shit and start wearing the black all the time, but with us we know we are out here playing this game and this game takes brains and names so we are enjoying our life. A cat is still gonna have the drama, but a nigga gonna get down and have fun too.
Where did you get this kind of understanding? The whole Thizz attitude is so original.
We got a lot of that from Furl, because Furl could have been an angry dude coming home from jail and shit, but he switched that shit around. Furl was a Gangsta, so don’t get it twisted, and every muthafucka we fuckin’ wit out here on Thizz is gangstaz from all over the Bay. These muthafuckaz will give you the business! But muthafuckaz is also multicultural and open minded. We got Thizz Latin and Thizz South. We are positive in our attitude that a lot of these gangstaz from all over is now working with Thizz. I am proud to be one of the owners of this movement.
How long have you been a CEO of Thizz Entertainment?
How that whole situation came about was when I was in Kansas City. Some muthafuckaz know it, about me losing my partner and my friend and my Mac brother, so I had to step up, not only for the music but for my neighborhood The Country Club Crest. I had to step up and be like, “Man, I got to take on some responsibility because it is not all about myself anymore.” I got to step up and make sure that Crest Cutthroat music don’t die in Kansas City! And you see that shit didn’t.
When someone dies they can only hope you get the kind of love Dre is getting! Ya’ll are really keeping him immortal!
Mac Dre is the flag that is waved by the entire Thizz Nation and we are all over the United States. We just opened up Thizz Nation South. It is going down! We got the Blacks and the Latins connected with Thizz Latin, and my folks Gold Toes is holding it down. It’s all under Furl and it’s not only love but respect. Not only do we have Furl looking down on us, but Thizz is a business on some positive stuff. My thing is we are not muscle, we are not hustle, we are straight up good business. I believe that us having those kinds of morals that we were raised with in The Crest and putting it into the business, we were able to be successful. But it was definitely all because of Furl. None of this woulda happened without him.
You feel it’s important to bring the good business side of things to the table?
Just peep it! In every city in the Bay there is somebody eating with Thizz. It is hard to hate that! It is really hard to hate that. Muthafuckaz is eating and starting their own shit doing their own things off of Thizz. That is one of the reasons for me kicking back the first year I was in the business, letting other people come out. That’s why we got Mistah FAB, Ridah J-Clyde, The Crest Creepers, and the list goes on. That’s why we got all these other fat groups bring that dope. Alls I do is kick back and let them get their shine on. One thing we didn’t want people saying is we trying to live off of his memory. You can’t say that about us because after a year we had all these stars. They were these new stars that Furl had love for and did work with them.
I know the streets are all over Thizz. Are the majors recognizing you too?
FAB is doing a deal with Atlantic, but as a whole we are trying to do business and make our brand solid. That is what we are focusing on. We are making sure that our brand is solid and our fan base is solid so when we do talk to these people we are talking on a righteous level. We are making sure that our name is a brand, so they can give us the walas. If it don’t come we will keep doing what we are doing and handling our business. We are handling our market and are putting out new records every quarter and coming with it. If it come it is cool, but if it don’t we’ll just keep doing what we’re doing and doing what we are good at.
You have been changing the game from the underground up! You don’t need the majors to turn this shit over.
No doubt! We are also getting into Rock music too. I got Crime Seen, which is the first Rock/Rap group on Thizz but definitely not the last, because we are into all types of music for real. We’re in the business and doing our thing how we want to do it! For the first time in the Bay you have all these bosses not being selfish and working together, doing what they can do for each other. We are expanding out to LA too. Now Bad Azz is fuckin’ with Thizz. Hopefully we can get them brothers down there on the same page as us and we can move with Cali as a unit. One thing I want to tell them brothers Down South that it is working up here, this shit is working.
What’s happening with Thizz South?
We got Thizz South and we got my folks Chop running that. Thizz South records is gonna be dropping soon! Uncle Miami and Kilo brought them to the table!
How would you compare your new record to “Untouchable”, “Illegal Business” and all of your previous work?
There is stuff definitely added. I learned so much from Furl before he passed. We were working on “The US Open” together. I learned so much from him seeing that freeness. It’s the freeness of being who you are and saying what you wanna say. It’s understanding that the people who buy you and the people who think the way you think appreciate your freeness. Knowing that, you just say what you want to say how you want to say it. I learned a lot from Mac Dre during the recording of “The US Open”. You just gotta be yourself. The people who buy your music appreciate your words and the way that you say them. That is how we speak Thizzlamic! Thizzlamic is whatever we want to say and however we want to say it. Even though some people might think it’s a mistake, that’s how we want to say it and people love that. With this record I kept the freeness! It’s not only a Mac Mall record with the viscous lyrics, but it’s also stewy and muthafuckaz is gonna laugh and crack up when they hear that shit. You are gonna laugh, cry, think, and all that because it’s gonna touch all emotions.
When you say freeness it makes me think of Tech N9ne!
Tech N9ne is definitely one of the freest muthafuckaz that I know. He does him, whatever the fuck anybody says. He could do whatever because that nigga will bust you up with some Hip Hop shit and then spit some Gangsta shit that a muthafucka can have. I know the dude and I have fucked with the dude and he is a friend. That muthafucka is a deep dude! He does what he does real good. Brotha Lynch Hung is the same way. You might think Brotha Lynch is on some Gangsta shit, but he is an original and one of my favorite rappers. When I tell people that they trip and are like, “What?” Dude is a cold thinker and that’s what I dig! That’s like on this record because I talk about whatever the fuck I want to talk about.
In your music you can hear a lot of truthful knowledge and street shit, but there is also a lot of party shit too. Which do you like doing more?
To me it is all the same. It’s just different feelings and different ways that I am feeling. I can’t say I like doing one thing the most, because it is all expressions of the moment.
What kind of reaction have you been getting from the album?
People have been saying that it’s like “Illegal Business” and that it’s a classic. It is the number one record in The Bay right now. We are going to drop the first single, which is called “The One”. The whole record is what Mac Mall fans have come to expect from Mac Mall, but a whole lot that they never dreamed of.
I grew up off that Mobb shit but the beats on this album are addictive! It sounds like you have a real supportive cast on here.
Thank you! We have always been innovators trying to stay a step ahead. Even with the stewy stuff it’s bass heavy. One Drop Scott brought a lot to this project, because I started the record with him. A lot of people showed up like Goapele. I even got a beat from my barber. My barber also does Hip Hop and he came through for me on a couple tracks. I also try to shine on some of the new people we got and the young cutties.
What are some of the outstanding songs on this record?
We got songs on there like this, which is a Thizzlamic song and it’s called “LuvLuvLavLavSavLuvLoot”. People might be like “What the fuck is that?” That means “Luv Luv’s Luv But The Lavish Savage Luv’s Loot.” I got shit on there like “Head Choppin” where I’m introducing some of the new cutties from our neighborhood. I got stuff on there like “Let’s Rock It” that I’m killing with my cutty Vidal from the Crestside. I got shit on there like “I’d Rather Have An AK”. I talk about everything from spirituality, police brutality, drugs, Black power, everything. We talk about all of that, but then I got a song where I talk about getting my dick sucked.
What are people saying about the song “Slobba”?
They love that shit! My little cousin Droop-E did his thing on the production. I wanted to have some fun on here too, that is what I learned from Furl. I keep the humor up in there, but also come with the heat, and don’t be scared. I come with all different feelings and I don’t think I showed any fear on this record. Just like the song “Ratha Have An AK”.
You hit all levels.
All my favorite rappers don’t have one style. Everybody wants to get a label for you. Like Tupac, of course they’re gonna label him with that thug shit, but this nigga had some of the most prolific shit ever written in the history of word.
He broke down the struggle for every man!
For every man! That’s what I would tell him when we used to kick it! I would tell him, “Dude, you are so important and you represent everybody.” That is why I feel blessed to have had the time that I had with dude.
Being from the Midwest, I never got to see the Young Black Brotha videos until recently. I saw Tupac was in one of your videos.
The cold part about it was he was not only in my video, but he also directed my video too. He directed me and Ray Luv’s video, and he did that shit for free because of the love he had for us. All I had to do in that video that you saw was come and do what this fool said. He had everything else planned out and that was the type of love this fool had for his people, man. He loved my project and loved what I was trying to do and helped me out. I was a young kid from The Crest and he put me up under his wing and taught me so much. I’m thankful to god to have had this dude in my life. It’s crazy, crazy! Also DJ Cease, rest in peace. If there wasn’t no DJ Cease there wouldn’t be The Mack, and if there wasn’t no Mack there wouldn’t be no Mac Dre and there wouldn’t be no me. For me, having my first generation mack and my second generation mack gone, I feel a great responsibility to handle this business and be able to get us to where we want to go along with Miami and Kilo. We got to get there, dude! These niggaz are in our brains every day and that’s why we handle our business!
Sounds like you have a lot of pressure on your shoulders?
The good thing about it is pressure makes diamonds. That’s the only thing on my mind. If anything, I have more inspiration than pressure. I have had real pressure like guns to a muthafucka’s head or something. That’s pressure! Police behind your ass is pressure. This is just business! We have had a lot of bad shit happen. We have shit happen to us and as men first we handle our business. If anything it is just fuel to my fire, and it’s shit that is gonna push me even harder. I can’t be weak. When I’m tired I think about the reasons I’m doing this and I’m not tired. Back in the day Mac Mall would have been like, “Man, fuck this shit I’m gonna go fuck with these bitches and smoke some weed.” Now I can’t do that because I got Mac Dre and DJ Cease looking down at me, pushing me to handle my business and go savage.
As a CEO you have lot of people who depend on you too.
Yeah, but I depend on them too. We are doing it! I don’t really feel that type of pressure!
It sounds like the business is almost like a sanctuary?
You can’t run from yourself! I would say that because when I handle my business with my folks and when we get further, in a sense it does make me feel good because we are getting our goals accomplished. I don’t try to hide from reality because we are fuckin’ with Thizz and we are fuckin with the streets and the realest soldiers are right here. We are bringing the community together and stop the killing by giving niggaz the opportunity to help themselves.
But the negative press will never focus on the good things like that!
Right. Ain’t nobody out here have got at us and gave us a pat on the back, a good line in the newspaper or nothing. We are helping to stop Black on Black crime. We are saving some lives, but nobody never focuses on that shit. Truth is, we don’t need them either, because we don’t do it for the media. We do it for the people.
Long after you are all gone, your legacies will be with the kids!
It is still gonna be Thizz! We got kids out here with us! If you look at our demographic a lot of that has to do with Furl too. We got fourteen year old White girls who love Thizz, and all nationalities from Chinese to Mexican to everyone.
It’s beautiful to see how music brings Black, White, Yellow, Red, and Brown together like that!
Everyone is together with this Thizz!
Are you planning to take Thizz overseas?
We got some Thizz cats that are down with us in Europe and we are definitely going to do the worldwide tour, but we are trying to lock down the United States first. We just opened Thizz South and we are taking it slow with that. We are doing this world domination thing step by step. We are on our way and we are breathing down they muthafuckin’ neck!
There has really been no label in recent history since No Limit to put out as much material as Thizz!
The cold part about it is we are not just putting out shit to put it out; we are putting out quality stuff. When you see that Mac Dre stamp you are getting a certain quality of music and we are not trying to rob you. Look what we are doing for the people, we are creating new stars in Hip Hop for people to love. Mistah F.A.B. just got with Atlantic and we just got the Thizz South stuff and we are keeping it moving.
If you ever were to hang up the mic, what would you be most happy about in your career?
I will never hang up the mic! They would hang me up before hanging the mic up. But if it was for one thing, that would be for spitting game. Ever since I was sixteen that’s what I did, because game don’t play out. You got rich nigga rappers, hardcore Gangsta rappers, Hip Hop style rappers, but I spit game. Game has to do with everything. Game is everything: from the corporate room to the block, from a little girl’s eyes to a jaded prostitute’s eyes. If it was anything I would have to say game! Mac can spit game!
Is there still a lot of unreleased Mac Dre material left?
We got another “US Open” record that we had did when he was alive. There is almost enough material for another record. We want to keep it special, not keep throwing it out there too fast, so the fans won’t think it’s special. We try to hold it back and bring it out on those special times.
Will there be another solo Mac Dre record?
Definitely. There is a lot of material left, you have not heard the last of Dre. We are trying to make sure that our brand is well known and we got other stars in store for you too.
