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Kottonmouth
Kings
Interview with Brad "Daddy" X
By David Friedman
Ive been listening to your new album, "Rollin Stoned,"
for a few days now and I really like the way you blend different musical
styles throughout the album. Was that your goal here?
The only goal was to not put any limits and boundaries on ourselves. We
had different songs written and we just wanted to make the records were
making. This one crosses over from hip-hop to punk rock to all kinds of
different flavors.
When you were producing tracks for this album, did you implement any techniques
that you hadnt used before?
I think we brought some more live instrumentation into some of the stuff.
A lot of times, when you make hip-hop records, youll dig through
the old record crates and come up with cool samples from old records and
stuff. This time, I got a band together of friends and really good musicians
and we literally just went in and jammed for two days straight. And I
picked a lot of pieces out of that. Then, wed make our own samples
out of stuff we played. Really, I think that was it. We wanted to kind
of make it a concept record on this one a little bit. We wanted to take
them on a journey. The concept was you hop on the magic bus with the intro
and then you go on this whole journey with the Kottonmouth Kings which
takes you in and out of all these different moods and styles. It represents
life in general because in life you have all kinds of different moods
and styles and things you go through you know, ups and downs, highs
and lows. And then it drops you off at the mountaintop, camping out with
the Kottonmouth Kings, having a massive session around the campfire and
light it up. That was the concept.
On the song "Sleepers," you mention how people are sleeping
on the Kottonmouth Kings. Youve sold a lot of albums since releasing
your debut album, "Royal Highness," on Capitol in 1998. But
why do you think that even more people havent caught on?
You know what? I think as far as the fans when we go and play across the
country, obviously we have massive support and a very loyal following
that comes out and supports the band and is into the band. I think that
was more referring to a lot of media and stuff. Theyll do all these
exposes on MTV on white rap or whatever, and they never mention the Kottonmouth
Kings. We have four albums and weve been touring the country for
seven years. Its cool with us. I think a lot of people maybe dont
acknowledge the Kottonmouth Kings. The Kottonmouth Kings, at least as
far as a diverse and interesting group that I hear out there, I think
were making interesting music that pushes boundaries.
Why do you think the media has skipped over the Kottonmouth Kings and
makes a bigger deal out of guys like Bubba Sparxxx?
Its hard to say. Its one of those things. Weve never
really been a critics band. But at the end of the day, the people
validate the music the people that come out to see the Kottonmouth
Kings validate it. And whos to say? In music, its music. So
everyone has their own opinions, everyone has their own contributions
to make as artists and musicians. Whos to say whos better
or anything like that? We just hope to make cutting edge records that
keep us stimulated as artists and hopefully keep our fans intrigued and
take them on a journey as they grow with the band.
When I listen to the song "4-2-0" from "Rollin Stoned,"
it makes me want to play some of your earlier CDs because it seems to
encompass everything thats good about your music. Could you talk
about that track?
That was kind of a West Coast beat. I think it was more like a party,
feel good, have a good time, get high jam. It was about 4:20, the national
code and time for smokin herb.
Which songs are likely to be released as singles from the new album?
Its hard to say right now. I like Full Throttle just
because of the aggressive attack of the song. Float Away I
think maybe could be a single just because its more like a summertime,
feel good song.
The hooks youve got on "Float Away" and "Positive
Vibes" are really catchy. Thats what makes fans want to play
the songs again and again. How much did you emphasize the importance of
strong hooks this time around?
If you look at all our albums, I think in our songwriting we always write
hooks. Its just the way we write our songs. Rest of My Life,
I think thats a killer song. I think thats a stoner anthem.
Its more of a stony kind of (track). That was all live instruments.
We just came out of that jam session that we had. We all have ideas for
songs and its just about what kind of feel and vibes should go with
that song or that hook. Sometimes the beat comes first and we write something
to the beat.
"Rest of My Life" was another one of my favorites. It kind of
reminded me of "Only God Knows Why" where Kid Rock took a break
from rapping to sing on one song off "Devil Without A Cause."
Both songs are relaxing. Do you agree?
Right on. I think it works. It is what it is. It was organically written.
(Johnny) Richter had the hook, he came singing me the hook and then we
just kind of said, That sounds good. We could have approached
it in the hip-hop way, but we said, No. Lets get the band
to jam out on that a little bit. And it just kind of came together.
On the song "Zero Tolerance," you deliver a political message
over a beat thats reminiscent of Timbaland. Could you talk about
that song?
I mean, when it flips right there in the second verse, it definitely flips
like that kind of thing real quick. You know, when the beat flips real
fast. Obviously, its about the war on drugs. The lyric is The
war on drugs is a waste of time. How could a plant be a crime? Theyve
got the bombs to kill off our kind. Arrest and seize, we get jailed, fucked
and fined. It just put in perspective the war on drugs. How, all
of a sudden, is a plant that the creator put here, that grows naturally,
now its a crime? But yet they make these bombs and missiles that
could fuckin blow up our whole planet 20 times over and thats
somehow acceptable and legal. Its a little out of whack, to me,
with the creators laws, with the universes laws, with man
living out of balance with nature.
How do bands like the Kottonmouth Kings and Cypress Hill tour all over
the country and smoke pot without getting caught?
Well, its not about getting caught or not getting caught. Its
about not being afraid to legalize freedom and pursue true freedom. If
the police authorities are worried about us smoking a little herb, then
I think they have better things to worry about. Yes, we get harassed.
We had our bus raided, weve had our houses raided. Of course, we
have. But at the end of the day, its just a plant. Obviously, were
on the front lines fighting for freedom for all types of freedoms
but now it just happens to be one of them.
In addition to legalizing marijuana, what are some of the other freedoms
youre fighting for through your lyrics on the new album?
I think just personal freedom, about just trying to find a place in life
where you can experience and live in balance with nature and just live
a peaceful existence and spread good, positive energy to the world.
Do you feel like youve matured as a person and as an artist since
you started up the Kottonmouth Kings?
Well, I hope weve grown and I hope all the experiences weve
had traveling around this world have (done that). Yeah, Im sure
everyones constantly evolving and changing. Thats just the
cycle of life. As you grow and as you experience things, it probably affects
your writing and how you are as an individual and a person. I think life
experiences have
changed me, like having a daughter. I had a baby girl a couple of years
ago. That helps you kind of re-evaluate and look at life through different
eyes. The most simple things or picking up a pile of dirt or going hiking
and looking at the trees or the animals is such an amazing thing to a
child. Its such an amazing thing that we overlook. The small things
like that, having very close friends die... I had a real good friend,
Rob Harris, who was my roommate and actually the first deejay for the
Kottonmouth Kings. He passed away in a skydiving accident. I had Jason
Thirsk, who used to play in Pennywise and played in my punk band, the
Humble Gods. He committed suicide. And the follow-up bass
player, Bianca Butthole who used to play in the band Betty Blowtorch
she died in a car accident last year. Knowing how mortal we are
and how precious this life is, hopefully it just puts everything in perspective
when things happen in your life. You grow and you learn from those experiences.
Being that youre married and youve got a daughter, is it difficult
for your family when youre touring so often?
They come on the road. But youve gotta understand that Kottonmouth
Kings is a big group. I am the only one whos married with a kid.
The road calls me, thats what I do and my wife and daughter have
adapted to that. Ive always done that since I met my wife, so they
just roll with it. My daughter goes on the road, my wife does for
not extended periods of time but enough to where it just it what it is.
Part of what I do for a living entails going on the road a lot.
Youve been on Capitol Records since 1998. What is the status of
your deal with that label?
You know what? This, really, the way I see it unless something
crazy happens probably will be our last album with Capitol. The
bottom line is pretty much weve experienced three presidents over
there. And every time we try to form a working relationship with this
label... Obviously because of Suburban Noize, we do a lot of marketing
and stuff like that. But it seems like, from my perspective, they havent
stepped up the way they need to step up for this band. So therefore its
really frustrating
working with a company like that because were trying to work in
synergy with them and it seems like were always kind of butting
heads with them.
Has Capitol tried to get you to change the bands style?
Well, I mean, of course if they had it their way theyd have us sound
like the fucking White Stripes or The Vines. Thats how those industry
people are. Whatevers hot right now. When Kid Rock was out, Youve
guys have gotta write some stuff like Kid Rock. And I said, No.
Were the fuckin Kottonmouth Kings. We stand on our own. If you dont
appreciate the stuff we do, then why did you sign this band here?
We make our own records. They dont come into the arena of us making
our albums, although theyve tried to. But thats a sacred space
for our band. Were the kind of band that needs to create and write
our own records. If we cant write and do our own records, then why
are we a group?
Will you look for a new label deal for the Kottonmouth Kings?
We have our own label, Suburban Noize. So obviously what I have learned
from dealing with major labels is these major labels are completely geared
to fuck the artists, straight out. Number one, the deals that are structured
are so one-sided and the way they do their accounting, its just
like the whole thing is a big sham. So we definitely would love to put
out our own records, just do a distribution deal with somebody. Thats
our ideal situation. Obviously, it just gets frustrating. Its kind
of a frustrating situation when you feel like youre doing all the
work and youre supposed to be partners with somebody, you know?
Do you feel like being on Capitol has helped you have the resources to
put out other bands on Suburban Noize over the years?
Well, it has. It actually helped us get the whole thing going. Besides
the Kottonmouth Kings, the Suburban Noize joint venture with Capitol was
up a couple years ago. So weve just been working independently since
then.
A lot of Kottonmouth Kings fans also buy albums by the other bands on
Suburban Noize. Could you tell me about some of the albums that are in
the works?
Weve got the Judge in the studio right now. Hes featured on
the song "Living in Fear" on the new album and hes featured
on the Hidden Stash record. He has an album coming out. Its
coming out really killer, too. Mix Mobs album is out right now.
The Sunami brothers have an album coming out thats D-Loc
and Bobby B, like kind of a deejay record. And then Pakelika the visual
assassin, hes working on his album right now. That should actually
be done by the time we leave on tour. That should be out hopefully by
Christmas time.
Since Pakelika dances but doesnt rap or speak in his role with the
Kottonmouth Kings, what is he going to do on his album?
On his solo stuff, he raps. He definitely has a very unique, abstract
style definitely more on the underground flavor. He uses a lot
of metaphors. He really has a style that I really cant compare to
anyone. Maybe Kool Keith would be someone I can come closest to comparing
it to. But he definitely has his own style and his own thing going.
Suburban Noize has also signed the Phunk Junkeez out of Phoenix, Ariz.
How did that deal come about?
Well, weve been going on the road with the Phunk Junkeez for a long
time and theyre out of their deal right now. I just like them as
people, I like them as a band. So I thought it would be cool and itd
be a good situation for both of us. Theyre kind of an established
band. We dont have the pressure of having to sell a million records.
If we sell 10,000, 20,000 records, its a good venture for everybody.
Another band that got its start on Suburban Noize is Corporate Avenger,
which got a deal with Koch and released on of the best albums of 2001.
After the terrorist attacks on September 11th of that year, Koch seemed
to have stopped promoting Corporate Avenger entirely, which was really
lame in my opinion. What are your thoughts on that?
If you really understood and got into what the Corporate Avenger was saying,
they were talking about religious wars and The Bible Is Bullshit
is all about fighting over the bible and fighting over religious territories
and fighting over God and beliefs between the Jews
and Christians and Muslims and Buddhists and all these people fighting
each other. Its just insanity. And it talks about that. Its
all about its time for us to love one another before
its too late, before this whole world goes up. So really, if anything,
after 9/11 the world needed Corporate Avenger. But Koch totally backed
off of it. I understand. Im not pointing fingers. Corporate Avenger
backed off of it themselves. They canceled all their shows after 9/11.
Thats what kind of inspired them to change everything. It kind of
freaked them out a little bit, which kind of bummed me out. But it is
what it is.
Over the past several months, theres been a lot of talk about "Stoners
Reeking Havoc," which was the name of your first EP. Is there any
reason in particular that that phrase is coming up again?
Well, we have a video coming out. Were calling it Stoners
Reeking Havoc. Its a live concert video, lifestyle video.
That hits stores on October 22nd. Its like the follow-up to Dopeumentary.
We just kind of put it together ourselves. Its lots of live stuff
and lots of just lifestyle, on the road, hanging out kind of stuff.
What else is down the road for you?
I really just try to live in the present right now. Obviously we have
this record coming out, we start a tour, were gonna see where this
record takes us and then just keep trying to survive as an independent
label and keep putting out music. Well just do what we do and whos
to say what the future holds for us? We could be at war next year and
maybe
theres no such thing as tours. Maybe theyre gonna ban rock
n roll in America. Who knows?
Do you have any final thoughts for all your fans who are picking up copies
of "Rollin Stoned" if they havent already?
Yeah. Were gonna be on tour. Just come out to the shows and come
check it out. If youve never checked it out, come check it out.
Other than that, just enjoy life.
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