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15th Anniversary- Al Kapone
Interview by Black Dog Bone

From Murder Dog vol.15 #2

How did you first come across Murder Dog Magazine? You were the first to rapper we interviewed from Memphis.
I’m pretty sure it was through J-Dogg at Select-O-Hits. I remember seeing a big-ass magazine. That alone caught my attention. I was like, Daaaaamn! That shit was in you face. That shit was fuckin crazy.

When we first started Murder Dog right away we started to connect with the South. The first one was J-Dogg and then we connected with Rasool from Pistol’s camp in Nashville. If you look in the second issue of Murder Dog we were already covering Southern Rap. We had Boogie and Pistol from Nashville. Back then no one knew about Southern Rap, other than a little what was going on in Florida and Atlanta.

I remember. What I noticed about Murder Dog was the love you were showing to the independents, in particular to the Bay and to the South. It was definitely at a time that nobody was fuckin with the South unless you was a huge major star like Geto Boys or 2LiveCrew. If you weren’t on that level it wasn’t no magazines that would fuck with you. Murder Dog really put the spotlight on the South way before the South blew up. It was when a lot of Southern artists that are huge now were still underground. Eightball & MJG, UGK, even when Master P was in his first stages.

You remember how many times I came to the South to do articles. We covered so many artists in the South. I have photos and videos of Southern artists that no one has. I met Lil Wayne when he was like 12 years old.

I remember goin with you to New Orleans on that trip, man! I remember that shit. The party Cash Money had when they first got signed. I remember Mike Tyson was there. At that time I had UG-TV and I filmed Lil Wayne when he was a little youngster. The point is, Murder Dog didn’t jump on the South because it was the hot thing to jump on. Murder Dog was on the South when the South needed somebody to give it a spotlight, to expose it to other areas outside of the South. And there wasn’t nobody else doing that shit. Murder Dog was the only one.

We were so excited about the South because it was a very different sound in Rap. When I heard Al Kapone or Three-6 Mafia or Big Boy Records, it was clear that a new sound had formed in the South but the rest of the country hadn’t recognized it. You knew it because you grew up in it.

Exactly. It’s evident now, but the South always had its own sound and its own swagger and lingo. At that time it wasn’t nobody up on it but Murder Dog. That was the time when the West Coast was dominating. When Death Row was in power and the Bay was getting a lotta love. New York was starting to get more shine with B.I.G. and the whole Bad Boy movement. The South was still in its beginning stages, but the South artists had their own fanbase within the South.

When I went to the South I could see there was a lot going on down there, a lot of original, raw talent, but nobody was taking notice.

Being a person from the South, I will personally thank you and everybody at Murder Dog for reppin our scene and our culture when we were getting overlooked. It was to the point where we had really stopped caring about muthafuckas recognizing us. When you started to show love I remember the energy. Here in Memphis and when I used to go state to state promoting my records. I’d have Murder Dog’s with me, and there was an excitement that independent artists felt when they saw Murder Dog. They felt like there was a way to be seen through the magazine outlet, which we had never experienced before. When people saw Murder Dog and saw the independent artists lookin big like the big boys in the other magazines. The independent artists were lookin big or bigger. And at the time when Pen & Pixel was the shit, and all the ads were in Murder Dog. You could be looking at all the South album covers in the ads. It was like an artwork portfolio to look through because the covers were so fuckin immaculate at that time. The bottom line was it was exciting for all the independent artists. They felt that Murder Dog was their magazine.

A lot of people thought we were a Southern based magazine because of the content. When the major labels had a Southern release they always had an ad in Murder Dog in order to get the Southern market. We were selling a huge amount of magazines in the South, we still do. On top of that we were sending truckloads of free magazines for promotion in the South, thousands of free magazines.

Not to mention, the ad prices for other magazines was astronomical. It was way out of any independent artist’s range. It was like they were tryin to wipe us clean. But y’all were showing love.

It’s beautiful to see how things have happened in the South. It’s not like East Coast or California. This week you hear something from South Carolina, next week it’s something from Memphis or Jackson or a small town in Alabama. It’s vast. I don’t think the South is going to fade out soon. There’s so many New York’s in the South; there’s so many LA’s in the South.

Unlike when the other coasts had it on lock, the South had been held back for so long that once we got a chance to have the ball in our court we’re gonna hold onto it for a long time. We had been denied it for so long, and during that period of denial we was able to define the sound that we liked. And each area has developed their own individual sound. It’s so many states in the South and so many cities in each of the states, so it’s easy for us to migrate from one spot to the next. When one city’s sound starts to get a little boring another city will come and hit everybody from a whole different angle. You can go from Crunk to Screw. And it’s other areas that still haven’t really got a chance to show what they got yet.

I feel like the South still has deep roots to Africa. The Africanness is not watered out in the South, it’s still pure. That was where the African people first came to the States. The spirit of Africa still lives in the South. When I go to the South I feel those spirits from a long time ago.

That’s a beautiful thing to remember, how the Africans were brought through the South. The majority of Black people migrated from the South, tryin to get away from slavery and went to other parts of the country. Generations past, but we all have roots in the South. It’s almost like being reconnected with something you got disconnected from. A cat from the Bronx that never been to the South, I guarantee you their grandmomma, great grandmomma or somebody, came from the South. And they can remember a grandmomma who still had that Southern attitude. By the time the South music came out they still felt some kinda kinship to it. That’s why the South was embraced throughout the whole country.

We still love what’s going on in the South. Now we’re seeing the music branch out. It’s growing in all directions, like how you’re performing with a live band. What made you decide to move in that direction?
One reason I decided to go there was because at a time when the Crunk sound was at its height—that’s when I had the songs on the film “Hustle & Flow”, when I had wrote and produced that “Whup That Trick” song. I could’ve just continued in that direction, but I felt that I need to represent where I’m from outside of Crunk. Even though Memphis came up with the original Crunk style, I started diggin into the roots of Memphis music and I found the Blues. I came back with BB King, I came back with Al Green, I came back with Isaac Hayes. I came back with all of these musical influences. Ike Turner recorded his first record at Sun Studio here. It’s a whole musical history in Memphis. I wanted to represent that side of Memphis so I got into the whole live element. I got into the live band aspect of it, and it felt good. When I started to record it was a whole different energy because when you play an instrument you get a very different feeling that you can’t get from keyboard sounds. When you hear a live guitar—a live sound guitar on the keyboard will never be the same as a real live guitar playing right there. Same thing with a bass guitar or the drums, it ain’t the same. Once I got into it, it felt so good and it felt fresh. It felt like when I first started getting into Hip Hop before everybody was doing the same thing. My creative vibes was flowing even stronger. I feel like I came into the right blend of the Soul, the Blues, the Rock and Rap elements of Memphis.

When I saw your video for that song “The Music” I was so excited. The song was tight, the music was raw and it was not something I’d heard before. It was great to see another side of Al Kapone.

Thank you. I’d like to say Murder Dog helped shed a little sunshine our way. Through your support you helped Southern Rap grow and blossom. All of us appreciate that.

 


Al Kapone

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