Tech N9ne
Interview by Black Dog Bone
Photo By Marcus Hanschen
Continued from Murder Dog vol.15 #2
Why did I use the Michael Jackson “Thriller”
concept? Because that shit is worldwide. That is the album that sold 50 million
copies.
I saw that cover. That’s a classic image that
we’ll never forget.
Michael Jackson had a white suit on. I don’t got
no white suit, that ain’t Tech N9ne. Tech N9ne’s crazy and insane. So you put
him in a straight jacket and name it “Killer” instead of “Thriller”. If my
journey is about getting to the rest of the world, why wouldn’t I mock that
cover that’s everywhere. People who don’t even speak the language are buying
his album. They can call me the Michael Jackson of Rap.
I love Michael Jackson. I don’t care what people
say.
Me either. OK, he had problems. I’m not talkin
about his personal life, I’m talkin about his musical life. So what I’m sayin
is my journey is not even half complete. We’re getting there though. Me and
Travis (co-owner of Strange Music), we’re getting there. It’s about getting it
to the rest of the world. When I say, “Fuck the industry,” A lot of my fans got
it twisted. They think I mean fuck BET and MTV, like I don’t want to be on
there. No man! I’m sayin fuck MTV for not puttin me on it. I’m sayin fuck BET cause
they’re not puttin me on there. I’m sayin fuck the radio because they ain’t
playin my shit like they should be. That’s what “FTI” means. Fuck the industry
because they won’t take chances with new music and better music. Music is
supposed to inspire. What that means is when I do something superb the next
young muthafucka that’s listening is compelled to do something even better.
Keep bettering Hip Hop, that’s what it’s supposed to do. Keep going up and up
and up. That’s what it’s all about, inspiring.
You would think that people on MTV or BET would
want to put you their show in a second, because your visuals are so amazing,
your stage performance is so incredible. Anyone would be excited to see you on
TV.
That’s the fucked up thing. It’s all about
money. Everybody has to get their palms green. I understand that. I understand
payola. I understand that we’re independent. We ain’t about to pay no DJ 20,000
to play one fuckin song 700 times a day. We ain’t got money to throw away like
that. We’re about to get it and then we’ll have to ask ourselves do we wanna
play that game. They’re gonna have to see me. The fans are gonna have to speak.
MTV is gonna have to see me, BET is gonna have to see me, the radio is gonna
have to see me.
You might not realize it, but you are a
legendary artist all over the world. If I were you I wouldn’t even worry about
TV or radio. Without anybody’s help you’re touching people everywhere in the
world. When I travel all over, everyone loves and knows Tech N9ne.
Exactly. What’s gonna happen is like when we
were in Denmark, MTV comes there and sees our show and 60,000 people are there
yelling my name. They’re gonna say, “Why don’t we know about this?” They’re
gonna say, “Where the fuck have we been?” That’s when the fans are gonna force
them to listen. Our fanbase is growing by the minute, so they will see us
somewhere with all that love and support. We’re turning this into something
humongous. We’re right in the middle of it, I see it.
You wish sometimes that a really big rapper
would just reach out and put you on their tour or call you to do a track with
them.
Exactly. I got a song on my new album called
“Why You Ain’t Called Me”. It’s talkin about me bein on tour with Jay Z. I
don’t even know why he ain’t called me. Why Ludacris ain’t called me, why Nelly
ain’t called me. Why you ain’t called me? It’s not a diss song. It’s just like,
nigga to nigga, why you ain’t called me? You know I got the heat.
When someone gets that power they can just
brighten someone else’s life by bringing them in.
Like I shoulda been on the Anger Management
Tours. We were doing our own tours when they were doin the Anger Management
Tours and the Family Values Tours and all that shit, the Rock the Mic Tour. I
was on the sideline sort of like Rudolf the Rednosed Reindeer. I’m gonna tell
your what’s gonna happen. A lotta these muthafuckin niggaz can’t even get
people to their shows. They’re gonna call me then, like let’s put Tech N9ne on
it. And it’s gonna be too late.
Just watch. Snoop will be calling you trying to do
something with you.
It’s funny you say Snoop, because now they put
me and Snoop together on this July 11 show. They want us to do it annually.
It’s big things. And I want the bigger things, Black Dog. I want it real bad. I
want everybody to know my name. When I go to a mall in a different city and
bitches ain’t goin crazy I feel like my job ain’t done. I need to be able to go
to Japan and everybody falls to the goddamn knees. That’s the king in me. The
reason why I say fall to their knees is because I give all of myself. I turn my
insides out.
You have experienced certain things in life and
have come into a deeper understanding. You want to share it with us through
your music. You have a gift to give.
I got a song on my new album called “I Wanna
Cry”. If I could just cry one good time I think I could clear my soul and be
fine. If I could just cry one time, cause I haven’t been able to cry since I
was 14. Whenever I used to go to funerals and shit I’d cry on the inside, hurts
on the inside, but no tears. If I could just cry real hard one good time I
think I’d be cool. I’d open up. For a person that just give everything, fuck
yeah you want people to bow down and say, “Thank you!” Everybody else is too
tough. “I’ll kill you, I’ll shoot you, don’t fuckin talk to me.” It’s a defense
mechanism. Me, I give you all of me.
You bring us love, a beautiful gift, but it’s
not getting to people. If TV or radio was pushing you, you music would make so
many people happy. When we feel down music is what keeps us going. Music is a
spiritual gift you’re trying to give to us
Do you remember this record “Ain’t A Damn Thing
Changed” by WC and the Maad Circle? Whenever I used to get upset back in the
day when I was in high school I’d throw that CD in and he had this song, “Get
on up on that funk, maybe you’ll feel better…” Coolio was on it—it made
me feel better every time, man. It’s like a weird thing with music. It soothes
the savage beast. God gave me the ability to soothe you. I’ve got devil
worshippers comin to my show in Arizona that come to me and say, “We know
you’re not one of us, but we love your music.” They love my pain, because
everybody’s in pain. When I set out to do this music I say I want my music to
be for everybody all over the globe. That’s why the Juggalos and Juggalettes
are gonna connect with me, cause they feel my pain and they see the clown in
me. Devil worshippers, they feel when I talk about my bad side, my brain bein
evil. They connect with that. When I’m talkin partying, sittin around and
drinkin Caribbalu, people in college come to my shows cause they identify with
that. When I talk about bein from a blood neighborhood. I wish I could shake
it, but I can’t shake it. I love my niggaz, wearin red and all this. The
gangsta niggaz can relate to it. I appeal to everybody because I’m everybody in
one.
When you say people come to your shows who are
devil worshippers, what are they all about?
I don’t know. I don’t really know, cause I don’t believe the devil exists.
People watch too many movies and they get to really believing in the devil. I
wanna believe in the spiritual realm; I wanna believe that there is a higher
power.
We are the higher power, but we haven’t realized
it. We are part of this existence. We are the universe mind. Your pain I can
feel. We are all one.
Yeah, man. That’s what I believe. I believe that
we are the higher power. We have the power to create and do anything. I think
the devil worshippers get a lot of that shit from shit that man created.
The man-created civilization is not the real higher
power. In Sri Lanka we worship devils. We call a devil “yakka”. We have
hundreds of different yakkas. Yakkas are our dead ancestors.
For sure! That’s cool, they can do that if they
like. I just think it’s from shit that they read and movies that they watch.
You did your earlier albums while you were using
drugs and now you’re clean. Is there a big difference in what you’re doing now?
“Killer” is a different album because I write my
life as it progresses or it gets worse or whatever. On every album I’m getting
older so a lotta things are changing. Therefore it’s gonna be different
content, it’s gonna be better beats, it’s a different mind frame. It’s still
Tech N9ne. It’s still party crazy wild-ass Tech N9ne,”drunk as hell at 3 in the
mornin…” It’s still Tech N9ne, but I’m spittin like I never spit before. People
say, you sound like you’re 18 on the mic. It’s like I’m getting young and older
at the same time. The flow is not getting old; it’s getting more polished. I’m
still raw, but it’s gonna keep changin every time. Like “Anghellic” doesn’t
sound like “Absolute Power”. “Absolute Power” doesn’t sound like “MLK”. “MLK”
doesn’t sound like “Everready”. “Everready” doesn’t sound like “Vintage Tech”.
“Killer” to me is all those in one.
“Killer” is a double album, right?
It’s a double album and it’s all done. Shawna came through for me from the DTP.
Ice Cube! I got Ice Cube and X-Clan on the same song, it’s called “Black Boy”.
It’s talkin about muthafuckas, how we go out to shop. And we got money because
we’ve done something legitimate like music, but they still treat us like
criminals. Because I’m a Black boy you think I’m bout to come in here and steal
something, but really I get paid more than you. Brother J came through a
blessed me on that track. Paul Wall came through. Mistah F.A.B. came through on
a song with me and Kutt Calhoun called “Let’s Go”. Hed P.E. came through with
Kottonmouth Kings on a song called “I Am Everything”. “Killer” is all
directions. Scarface came through for me on this one, man. He’s on a song
called “Pillow Talkin”. Brad Jordon himself! I was down at South by Southwest
this year at Austin, Texas. Scarface agreed to do it, so we drove a couple
hours to Houston, went to the studio and he wrote it right in front of me and
recorded it right then. It was a wonderful experience cause I’ve been a Geto
Boys fan since the beginning. Just bein in there with that royalty! Two kings
together.
Who made most of the beats for this album?
Different people. I’ve still got Seven. Seven’s gonna always be with me, he did
the majority of it. I’ve got Wysh Master from St. Louis. He’s the one that did
a lot of Nelly’s shit. I’ve got a guy named Young Fyre from Iowa—he’s
fuckin insane. Him and Wysh Master got them big-ass beats. Then this other new
guy by the name of Matic Lee. He’s from Atlanta and he came through, gave me a
lot of live band shit. David Sanders II came through, he’s from Alabama. So
many people came through. Bosko came through. Tygilla. I just get ‘em from
wherever. I put Tech N9ne on top of these new beats.
What are some of the big towns for you when you
tour?
Denver is a real big one. Denver, Colorado. Fuckin Seattle. We sell out the
Moore Theater and that’s three levels. Las Vegas is big for us. Oregon is
really big for us—Portland, Oregon, Eugene, Oregon, Bend, Oregon. Salt
Lake City is humongous for us.
All those Mormon kids come out?
Fuck yes. Mormons aren’t supposed to have sex until they get married. When Tech
N9ne come to town all that shit goes out the window.
When you tour how many towns do you hit?
Like 67 and we’re at 30- something now. We might not do Canada now, so that’ll
cut it down to like 56 or 57. We’re big in Canada too, we’re just waiting on
the promoter to get it together. There’s people up there waitin on us.
I love what you’re doing. I hope you always keep
it Strange.
It’s all about that. It’s just gonna keep
getting weirder and weirder.
What made you stop using Ecstasy?
My kids, man. My kids. And I’d rather do this
music and take care of my children than die on Ecstasy. My kids really look up
to me, and their kids at school look up to me being Tech N9ne. They really
adore me, they’re proud of me being their daddy. They love to be seen with me.
They love to go out to eat with me or to go to a movie with me. My kids are so
important to me. It’s them over any drug.
Also you had a Mohawk and you used to paint your
face like a tribal warrior. What made you want to decorate yourself in that
way?
It started with my stepfather, him being a Muslim. He had me working jobs to get
my own money and he was real strict. When he found out that I was rappin on the
side he said, “You don’t need to rap. What you got that’s different that nobody
else has? You’re gonna sound like everybody else.” That made me wanna change
everything I did—the way I rapped, the way I looked, the way I think. The
paint came from my fear of clowns when I was little. When I used to go to the
Ringling Brothers Barnum & Bailey circus and the clowns shake your hand, I
never knew what was going on behind that painted smile. It could be a frown or
actually malicious, but the smile was painted on. That creeped me out. There
was a mystique to the whole thing. My fear turned into infatuation. I need to
become what I fear most. Being mysterious, they don’t know what I’m thinking
until I put it down on paper. The face that’s painted on looks evil, but really
in my heart it’s love. But I don’t want the demons to know that, because that’s
when they’ll try to get over on a person that loves. The clown brings forth the
evil in my brain but my eyes are the window to my soul. You can tell by looking
in my eyes that it’s all about spreading love. In a world of evil I would have
to have something to camouflage me, because if any demons find out what’s
really goin on inside me and try to get over me, then I might have to get evil
on him. That will in turn take me away from my children. My children are my
world. This is the crown that protects me. I bring my insides out. I bring the
inside of my brain out, but I hide my heart sometimes. But when I’m on the
fuckin mic you hear my heart pour out. The paint came from me fearing clowns
and the mysterious, the unknown, and that keeps me mysterious. In a world that
everybody looks the same and everybody’s a carbon copy, I love the mysterious.
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